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October 28, 2005

Over at CJR Daily there's a discussion of the growing body of opinion, from the Left and the Right, that we're becoming a fascist state. Considering that the Right (the far, far Right) is the political home of fascism, I find this encouraging. People on the Right, and not just ones that a Lefty might consider "moderate" are starting to see problems in how the country is being run.

Maybe my personal (and I'll admit, very visceral) dislike of Bush and of all his Administration's doings leads me to mistake the majority of our political Right for something a lot Wingier than it is. Maybe there are some Real Conservatives left. Let's hope they move faster to regain control of their party than liberals did with the Democratic Party.

Posted by AnneZook at 08:22 AM


What bothers me most is when right-wingers talk about "liberal fascism," which is an oxymoron right up there with "military intelligence"...

Posted by: Elayne Riggs at October 28, 2005 09:44 AM

Almost any belief, taken to extreme and implemented rigidly, can resemble fascism. Bot to mention bigotry.

One thing the Right consistently suceeds at is in coining phrases that confuse the casual listener (or voter) into thinking liberalism in this country has become the bastion of nutcases and extremists.

Posted by: Anne at October 28, 2005 10:21 AM

To my mind, the core idea to come out of the English Revolution, and give rise to the Enlightenment and modern liberal ideal, was the idea that government exists to serve the people. Non-liberal ideologies, such as monarchism, fascism or theocracy, insist that the people exist to serve the state (theocracy insists the people exist to serve God by serving his chosen servants who run the state).

"Government exists to serve the people, not vice versa."

I'm not sure how you could take that to an extreme and end up with facism.

Posted by: Lawrence Krubner at November 11, 2005 03:32 PM

I can think of several ways. Improbable, but possible.

The most obvious is to suggest that "newspeak" is an ideal vehicle for masking a facist government with a cloak of service.

Posted by: Anne at November 12, 2005 11:23 AM