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June 04, 2007
Both Sides Now

Zimbabwe: Government Admits Food Crisis

Man Beats World Hot Dog Eating Record.

It's a wacky world.

In other "news," we know that the neocons worship Reagan's memory because they think he "ended" the Cold War by ramping up this country's defense industries (in which many prominent neocons owned large amounts of stock) to the point where if defense spending was significantly slowed, the economy would be in trouble, although that's possibly not how they'd describe it.

I wonder what they're going to think of the Bushbaby when he starts a new Cold War?

Probably eternally grateful at the thought of all of those future defense contracts.

For your perusal otherwise:

Remember when we invaded Iraq? Remember when They were pretending that this unprovoked invasion of another sovereign state was a righteous war that we'd win because our god could beat up their any day They (that other "They" this time) were going to kill us all? Remember when it turned out that none of that was true?

Now we have reason to be grateful that it was all a lie, don't we? Because it turns out that we're not whupping them. U.S. Troop Drive Said Faltering in Iraq (In fact, and as anyone paying even cursory attention to the headlines these days knows, we've been over there for over four years and we haven't even cleaned up a city, much less the entire, bite-sized country.)

Ah, well. With a bit of effort, we could still win a stalemate, helping us achieve our goals of destabilizing the Middle East, pushing USofA fuel oil prices through the roof, and spending this country into near-terminal bankruptcy so that those wacky libruls won't have any money to waste on our decaying infrastructure, the disaster of our public schools, the looming crash of our healthcare system, and the disintegration of the planet's ecosystem and other leftwingnut concerns.

At least, I'm pretty sure that's what they were thinking.

Bush&Co were told something like this could happen, you know.

(And, speaking of reasons to invade Iraq, how many sites like this one have you been thinking about?)

In the meantime, the USofA's mercenaries keep fighting the war that Bush&Co rhetoric insists is being fought solely by patriotic soldiers. (Yeah, I know, there are a ton of actual soldiers over there. But I'd like to see more public discussion, like on the 6:00 news, of the mercenaries.)

Anyhow. Make no mistake. What Bush&Co want isn't to 'pacify' Iraq. They want to own it. (Although it's possible that the surrender monkeys will prevail.)

Remember Gitmo? Here's a story.

The key 'graf:

For people who have been following these issues, the findings were predictable: The aggressive interrogation techniques adopted by the administration after 9/11 are "outmoded, amateurish and unreliable," as the Times put it. They are a relic of a properly discarded past, abandoned not out of any moral compunction but because of "a more practical critique": There's no evidence they work. Dr. Randy Borum, a Defense Department consultant, noted: "There's an assumption that often passes for common sense that the more pain imposed on someone, the more likely they are to comply." But there is precious little evidence to back it up.

(emphasis added)

Some of those people have spent four years in the hands of sadists and/or lunatics who think the more pain imposed on someone, the better.

People? Were tortured.

/end obligatory intermittent posting to keep the sp*mm*rs away.

Posted by AnneZook at 10:35 AM


Comments

Here's another tourist's view of the hell on earth we've created from the WaPo:

"At every point, there was part of me resisting, part of me enjoying," Lagouranis said. "Using dogs on someone, there was a tingling throughout my body. If you saw the reaction in the prisoner, it's thrilling.
"In Mosul, he took detainees outside the prison gate to a metal shipping container they called "the disco," with blaring music and lights. Before and after questioning, military police officers stripped them and checked for injuries, noting cuts and bumps "like a car inspection at a parking garage." Once a week, an Iraqi councilman and an American colonel visited. "We had to hide the tortured guys," Lagouranis said.
Then a soldier's aunt sent over several copies of Viktor E. Frankel's Holocaust memoir, "Man's Search for Meaning." Lagouranis found himself trying to pick up tips from the Nazis. He realized he had gone too far.
At that point, Lagouranis said, he moderated his techniques and submitted sworn statements to supervisors concerning prisoner abuse.
"I couldn't make sense of the moral system" in Iraq, he said. "I couldn't figure out what was right and wrong. There were no rules. They literally said, 'Be creative.' "
Good to have you back - even if only for a little while...

Posted by: Azael at June 5, 2007 04:04 PM

Azael, thanks for the link and the excerpts. I don't think many of us understand how thin the veneer of "civilization" is. Until, like that man, we realize we've crossed the line.

(I'm trying to avoid headlines that get me all aggravated--but some days it's hard!)

Posted by: Anne at June 7, 2007 01:48 PM

MSN I NIIPET
MSN

Posted by: Bill at June 30, 2007 05:13 PM